My fascinating conversation with architect Beom Jun Kim (w.a.k) about VR and architecting space and narrative with reference to Queerskins Home, the free, open 24/7 interactive installation we made in VRChat. Talking sound as a spatial element, kitsch, symbolism, Richard Serra, queer phenomenology, time and duration, Brecht, North Korea and English follies Next level, folks. If you make in VR, you want to see this.